Anfiteatro dell'eterna Provvidenza by Vanini Giulio Cesare

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Nor, for the same reason, would pain be completely evil. 28a So we must find something other than its indeterminate character * to give pleasure a share in goodness. But you can leave that as one of the undetermined things. Now take intelligence, knowledge, and thought. To which of these categories do you two think we could 5 allot these without fear of sacrilege? We must be careful. A good deal hangs on getting the right answer to these questions. b Phil. You are overplaying the importance of your candidate , Socrates.

Should we say that the body we have has life (psyche)? Prat. Obviously. Soc. Where does it get it, then-unless, that is, the body of the universe is alive (empsychos), since it has the same features as this body in a wholly superior degree? Prat. Clearly there could be no other source. Soc. I agree. Otherwise we should have to say that while there were these four elements-the determinant, the indeterminate, the mixture, and fourthly the category of cause-present in everything, and this last was in the case of our own elements responsible for life (psyche) and for the development of the body and its recovery when hurt, and won a name for every form of skill for its varied construc­ tive and beneficial activities, nevertheless while these same elements were present on a large scale in the universe as a whole and what is more in fine and unadulterated form, in this case intelligence did not fashion the character of the finest and noblest features of the universe .

Soc. Yes. But now mix with it the class of determinants. Prat. I don't understand. Soc. The one we should have rounded up j ust now-the class of determining elements, as we rounded up the indeterminate into a single class-but didn't. Perhaps it will do as well though if with these two rounded up that one emerges clearly. Prat. What class are you talking about? Soc. That of equal and double, and whatever puts an end to opposites being at odds with each other, and by the introduction of number makes them commensurate and harmonious.

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